You are wrong on Justification. I think (all reactionary issues aside for the moment) Timothy Gordon shows himself to be acting as a Christian should (in terms of seeking to reconcile); Taylor Marshall is not acting in such a fashion. Yeah, right. God allowed this. ], Update: called Taylor a little bit ago to wish Happy Easter Monday and bury the petty squabbles. Wish ALL of them into the Kingdom of Heaven[. His critical statement on his web page was even more scathing: Taylor Marshall, a man I usually ignore, has insulted the signatories of this statement, as lacking the brave and bold spirit which, he claims, animated the late Archbishop Lefebvre. Many of you are followers of Dr. Taylor Marshall's podcast series on YouTube, and are familiar with Tim Gordon, who co-hosted with Marshall for the . I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. But Trads have flatly misunderstood religious freedom in Dignitatis: read Leo XIIIs IMMORTALE DEI 36, which Trads reject Dave and I agree 100%about Dignitatis[.] Theres always room to come@back together. (4-13-20, 12:16 AM). I think Fr Khouri might have been implying that few if any Christian Apologists are making their living by tent-making these days ,Patrick. Whats obtuse is a hermeneutic of intentionalism instead of a hermeneutic of textualism, Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. I just dont want this dragging out in public. The Spirit also works with unbelievers, such as atheists and agnostics, so that they might find salvation by loving their neighbor, and thereby may implicitly know and love God. Ive been reaching out for months; just defending myself against slander[.] They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. Timothy (words in green henceforth, and Taylors in blue) tweeted on April 13th ( at 8:06 PM and 8:13 PM): Just defending myself with the truth. I used to watch Dr. Taylor Marshall, a Catholic theologian and blogger, quite a bit and he used to do these podcasts with fellow Catholic theologian Timothy J. Gordon. Im arguing that they failed by not clearly articulating their modernism[.] It will not. You are wrong on divorce and remarriage, and absolution and Communion for people living in objective sin. Ego kills. Can we talk about that? (3:18 PM), Completely unacceptable, Taylor. Truly care for him. Marshall: I just dont see where anyone on earth can judge the Supreme Pontiff.. RoP [Right On Point] is a perfect forum for this. Then, given our sinfulness and brokenness, God positively wills that there be other religions, such as the Christian denominations, present-day Judaism, and moderate peaceful Islam, so as to bring more souls to Him. Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. It seems possible to do with some but not most SSPX attendees, namely the ones w/o the schismatic attitude How do you unite the clans with those who call us FSSP bootlickers, a common attitude among SSPX ever since FSSP broke off. Im asking.Thanks. (10:25 AM), A) shes calling names, not me B) my daughter has brain surgery in 90 mins and many of these people want to go to war with good guys like FSSP. At the same time, Church Militant/Michael Voris is doing an expose on alleged pedophile coverups in the SSPX. All else is minutiae, God bless FSSP! Well have to wait and see what side other big shots in the reactionary world (e.g., Many lesser-known Marshall fans & followers, ICKSP (which now runs the parish I attended in Detroit for 25 years), The Tabernacle: Egyptian & Near Eastern Precursors. Thats why. Their many gods are a reflection of human failings. Dont worry brother, No worries at all. If so, please seriously consider a much-needed financial contribution. Oh, really? What would a resurrection of men look like? It is not that God wishes many persons to be in religions which lack the fullness of truth. Distinctions matter[.] Im saying that formal adherence to schismatic acts is a grave peril of attending the SSPX. Why we need to stop validating the word feminism (namely its toxic meaning) with some kind of nice adjective, like Christian feminism, new feminism.. (4-14-20, 5:01 PM), Im fine. Do any have a Mandatum from their bishop to teach? Catholics are drama queens, People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. (4:38 PM), People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. My Podcast link: Author Texas, USA youtube.com/drtaylormarsha Joined January 2009 351 Following 131.9K Followers Tweets & replies Media Dr Taylor Marshall I called him yesterday. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. Lets take this offline, bro. Lefebvre voted for EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. I would never frag ya[.] But I saw Josephs tweet and found it disappointing. (9:16 PM), My sole issue with his Easter tweet was that he retracted his previous due criticisms of the SSPX, which I worried would nudge many of the faithful to attend SSPX liturgy, which would endanger the less-educated in the Faith, since they will more readily succumb to therebellious mindset of the Society towards VC II and towards the Novus Ordo, a mindset that is condemned by the Church. (8:33 PM), He made it sound like he called back, Steve. (4-14-20, 4:59 PM). As if this is what we need right now at this moment in history. Sometimes they bark at perceived threats, sometimes they bark at each other, but the howling never ceases. I reached out to Tim this morning. PS: this isnt a big deal. All this time I thought "Jesus Revolution" Film & the Sacrament of Baptism. You are wrong on all of these things. Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. I was being snubbed. Thus, when there are disagreements, how can two mini-popes with their little online fiefdoms resolve a difference? That was the emotionally charged testimony of a 26-year-old woman, in the jury trial of 34-year-old Timothy J. Gordon, who is charged with two felony counts of aggravated sexual abuse, for two. I dont care about the business model. Joseph Shaw, chairman of The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales, himself a radical Catholic reactionary, has dissed the even more extreme Taylor Marshall. Anyway, if it is blue-on-blue attacks you are worried about, that is exactly what Im criticizing TM for. Gordon: not material heresy. And JP2 was FAR more modernist than he acknowledges, but the point is that Daves tweet to Taylor was 100.0000% civil[.] Bellarmine also condemned as proximate to heresy, the position that Vatican I made into heresy itself, that the Pope may be a heretic or may teach heresy. Thats my ecclesiastical position. Home The Slow Death of ManhoodDr. St Paul of Tarsus fought to the death with half the people who crossed his path and he was a very, very great Saint indeed. Timothy replied in that discussion thread: Its not a matter of opinion. (4-14-20, 4:56 PM), I dont think you get it. Marshall goes on to make the judgment that Pope Francis has taught heresy and grave error, contrary to dogma. The ordinary form Mass is still valid, yet it is trashed all the time and regarded as objectively inferior. And Catholics who attend it are despised and looked down upon, as second-class Catholics. A bunch of the mob on here defend your position, but say they choose FSSP over SSPX every time, THIS is the real issue. This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. . Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. I used to believe this nonsense as well. The pope is a valid pope, but only worthy to be bashed and lied about week in and week out. It was long overdue, though completely predictable. Pope Francis: But some might ask themselves: but why is the Pope going to the Muslims and not just to Catholics? Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. 2 or 3 of them. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon knock it outta da park HERE. . Tons of defamatory theories swirling about my motives and about the TnT breakup itself (which Marshall is conspicuously failing to correct). This critique hinges on the implicit denial of Catholic doctrine and prudence: dismissal of the conspiracy because it is a conspiracy. Wow! When Pope Francis issued the early statement on many religions, some theologians complained saying that God only permits many religions. (, Paul Philippoteauxs painting of Picketts Charge at Gettysburg. And God is always trying to bring everyone to salvation, in whatever way they are willing to respond. (2:20 AM), My homeboy@SteveSkojec (accidentally) mischaracterized my position, which is actually schismatic attitude in many/most attendees (but not all)[.] It turns out that Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon have had a disagreement regarding SSPX going back to January. Friendly reminder that all top level comments must: start with "answer:" (or "question:" if you have an on-topic follow up question to ask). Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). (9:54 PM), Just gotta retry each day for unity. (4:02 PM), Why all the handwringing about civility? The original story was that he was apparently leaving to focus on his own podcast series or something like it and that it was a relatively amicable departure. Tim Gordon was a high school theology teacher at a Catholic school in California. One has the right to defend ones reputation, For the annals of history: I didnt leave. I was non-renewed against my wishes. He made it sound like he called back, Steve. He wont call back. Such heated rhetoric between ostensible allies and fellow reactionaries has huge implications for the internal unity of the reactionary movement, which appears to be significantly fracturing (an almost inevitable occurrence with all heretical, schismatic, and quasi-schismatic movements; I classify reactionaries as in the latter group). Or admit that you have fallen into grave sin out of pride in the brightness of your own thoughts. On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid!, Just tried calling you. I am grateful to the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, by whom our Marshall family received the Resurrected Body of Christ on this Easter Morn. He didnt. Of course, following someone on Twitter does not . This situation is one to watch. Even atheists recognize that fact. Without them we would be without the Sacraments. The SSPX is the only church in town that is not a total joke and does not desecrate the eucharist. Weve said this over and over on TnT (TnT is his video series with Timothy Gordon.) It is not submission to acknowledge that Pope Francis is the Pope. That is why, as he. Therefore, he has chosen to depart from the Catholic Church. Please review Rule 4 and this post before making a top level comment: I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Imagine being me in this situation. Moreover, since we are not in full communion with SSPX, receiving the Eucharist with them is a performed falsehood. Timothy Gordon replied on 4-13-20, at 8:36 PM and 8:54 PM: Agreed. Ron I know under Canon law the pope can resign, but does The conclave then examine the resignation to see if it meets Canon law and was freely done? Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. The largest imaginablepublic detraction w/ extremely sensitive private info you had as a family friend. The attempts to throw Dave under the bus are silly. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text, The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. He is, in a video far too tedious to link to, claiming that they are cowards. God forgive me for anything negative or incorrect that I have ever said about the SSPX. Care to say more than a drive-by insult, Fr Khouri? [25], Marshall briefly received attention from Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign for popularizing Archbishop Vigan's letter warning of a deep state working to undermine the United States of America. Vatican II is a valid ecumenical council,yet it is trashed all the time and regarded as fundamentally less authoritative than Vatican I and (especially) Trent: even though Pope Benedict XVI (the bitterly disappointing former darling: because he resigned), writing in 1985, made it clear that Vatican II and Trent have precisely the same authority. I think youre [Steve Skojec] closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will (5:20 PM), In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that@TaylorRMarshallerred by receiving the Eucharist from the SSPX on Easter; regular parishes are widely shuttered and there was no other possibility of receiving the Holy Eucharist. Catholic Doctrine and the Sunday Readings for March 2023, Please Welcome Our Speaker for Tonight Mrs. Very sad. Too many apologists charge ridiculous amounts to come and speak at parishes and conferences. And yet his accusers ignore his statements which agree with their point of view! Thats the problem. I cant do UNITY alone. (11:39 PM), God bless FSSP! The Patrick Coffin Show podcast features weekly interviews with A-list influencers and outliers in the effort to recover the Judeo-Christian roots of the culture. Learn how your comment data is processed. Taylor Reed Marshall (born March 29, 1978) is an American Catholic YouTube commentator,[1] former Episcopal Church priest, and former academic, now known for his advocacy of traditionalist Catholicism. In this video, Pope Francis Accused of 7 Counts of Heresy by 19 Scholars, Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon discuss the Open Letter accusing Pope Francis of heresy. 2 of Daves biggest heroesSheen and Burkeagree with him[.] But Trads have flatly misunderstood religious freedom in Dignitatis: read Leo XIIIs IMMORTALE DEI 36, which Trads reject Dave and I agree 100%about Dignitatis, Agreed that there was a modernist intent going in. Marshall also formerly served as the assistant director of the Archdiocese of Washington's Catholic Information Center. (9:58 PM), Lefebvre voted for EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. What, Marshall seems to be asking, would Rambo do? Truly care for him. (8:04 PM), no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls[.] I read somewhere that it has something to do with the Society of St. Pius X, a group in an "irregular situation" regarding canonical status due to the founder's excommunication, but I'm not sure how exactly involved they are in the Marshall vs Gordon thing. (1:53 PM), The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. Canon 1364, n. 1: an apostate from the faith, a heretic, or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Gotta be two-sided though. This shouldnt be engaged in public. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. Wherever it leads. (3) And this teaching, which is also a Law of the Church: The First See is judged by no one (Canon 1404). For their good and mine and all of us, Im officially ending this nasty Twitter feud. Sounds a bit petty, but I have noticed there's a lot of division and debate in the Catholic blogosphere regarding the SSPX. But if youre saying that hes a heretic, which they say in his opening line, an heretical Pope, my ecclesiastical sense says, you also have to say: And therefore I am not in communion with him. And that is something that I, Taylor Marshall, on this date, cannot say. Cuz the Church wont clarify. So the seventh accusation is patently false. "It is a mistake to maintain that woman's rights are the same as man's. Women in war or Parliament are outside their proper sphere & their position there would be the desperation & ruin of society. any waypublic or privateto reconcile with TM is good. It is also a schismatic statement, since no one submits their minds and hearts to a Pope whom they think has said heretical things. (12:11 AM), The attempts to throw Dave under the bus are silly. Only one offering mass, confession and benediction for over a month.], For my part, I didnt even see the SSPX debate your post caused until late afternoon. In this video, I critique Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon's portrayal of Henri de Lubac's theology of nature and grace. I know so many people here in town who have been touched by him and drawn to Tradition. Meaning inheres in text, not intention. Too many apologists are gurus with groupies. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall. , and February 2022 marked the 25th anniversary of my blog. When they reach the seventh accusation against Pope Francis, Marshall again accuses the Pope of heresy. Indeed I read last night, on one of Taylor Marshall's latest tweets, that he has blocked Timothy Gordon and also his wife as well I think. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. I mean, have Taylor and Tim never heard of private messaging or text messaging? This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. (4-13-20, 12:52 PM), I reached out to [Timothy Gordon] this morning, actually. I would never frag ya, Disagreeing respectfully is the OPPOSITE of fragging. They received confirmation from Bishop Kevin Vann in May 2006. Marshall has been openly critical of Bishop Robert Barron's promotion of the Balthasarian thesis of the possibility of universal salvation. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. I heard he was mad about some of them[.] He injects these fascinating interviews with his own distinctive blend of depth and levity. Show me where I called you a single name. Certainly, God gives sufficient grace to everyone to avoid all grave sin and to do His whole will. What would be the reaction of some knuckle-headed character played by Mel Gibson? Steve Skojec opined on 4-14-20 (5:10 PM): Our coalition is dwindling, . Its contrary to the Councils, Tradition, Fathers.. (9:50 PM), Clarify where correct; apologize where incorrect. ). It is fixable. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. Its intolerable, Its a boring, inconsequential, fruitless debate. I don't know what happened first, but since then, what little I have listened to from Dr. Marshall, Voris, and Gordon since then has not mentioned each other by name at all, telling me that things might not be so amicable. [10][11], Marshall has published books in the fields of theology, philosophy, and historical fiction. My brand CANT be damaged by defending the ONE HOLY CHURCH against outsiders who claim my Sunday obligation isnt fulfilled if I attend novus. "The Catholic Monitor" Butchers My View of Papal "Eucharistic Pharisees" (Communion in the Hand). Ive been reaching out for months; just defending myself against slander, no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls. Sorry to see him go, but pride goeth before a fall. Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. Now lets review the teaching of the Church on the subject of the papal gifts of immunity from error and a never-failing faith. . Its quite strange, no? Mind your business Steve [Skojec]. (2:04 PM), I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid! (2:14 PM), Just tried calling you. [21] Marshall, on his YouTube channel, regularly comments on statements from Vigan. The Twitter page for the latter (Im banned there but have seen a screenshot), proclaimed on 8 September: Marshall is a grifter with nothing to lose.. I await your reply, Taylor Its sophistical to claim (ever) that its too late for civility. Theres an unimagined gap between FSSP and SSPX[.] Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Same here but for a different reason. Eric Sammons replied to Shaw on Twitter (. But now and then, a high-profile reactionary actually becomes more diabolically self-consistent (though further from the truth) and ventures over the line. Hypocrite. [2][7], From January 2012 until June 2013, Marshall served as the chancellor of the now-defunct College of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More. Someone close to Taylor, tell him to return my call. And he states this again, more specifically later in the video. (9:16 PM), Also for the record, Ive never been certain why Taylor opted for non-renewal during the peak of TNT popularity. The last is not a heresy, but also not what Pope Francis taught. by (1) No Pope can teach heresy or grave error. Marshall: I think they should have said the situation of a Pope espousing in individual cases things deemed to be heresy. . Lets take this offline and chat by phone later, yes? In October 2019, Marshall received media attention for publicizing an incident at the Catholic Church's Amazon Synod in which Alexander Tschugguel and an accomplice filmed themselves removing indigenous fertility statues, reportedly of Pachamama, from the Church of Santa Maria in Traspontina in Rome and throwing them into the Tiber river. Only dad does. (7:58 PM), I called him yesterday. That's it? Look at what the Church says on the matter: Debating an issue is fragging? Yes, Dave and I disagree on stuff. Posted on Friday, October 5, 2018. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up. He is the author of multiple books, including the 2019 bestselling book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. Dont worry brother[.] They talk about tough things but have a good time! Shock horror. Marshall graduated from Texas A&M University in 2000 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in philosophy. Dr Taylor Marshall @TaylorRMarshall Bestselling author of "Infiltration" and 10 other books. (3:04 PM), I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. Now, back to what Taylor Marshall said: this statement bothers me more, I think its more heretical, more grievous than anything in Amoris Laetitia. How this crisis manifests itself in the disappointing behavior of so many priests, bishops, and cardinals. I dont care about the business model. In this episode, you will learn: Without them we would be without the Sacraments. Then the penalty for heresy and schism is automatic excommunication. Distinctions matter, Dave and I disagree about *how close* VC2 comes to embracing ecumenism/modernism. Lets take this offline, bro. And since Marshall does accuse Pope Francis of heresy, later in the video, he is not in submission or communion with the Pope. I think its unfortunate that you used such over-the-top language about a fellow trad. However, around Easter of 2020 (during the pandemic), I found a bunch of people suddenly debating each other in Catholic . He sent a diplomatic text insinuating there wouldnt be a call. Taylor Marshall is a heretic and a schismatic. For context, here is one of the podcasts they did a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. Everyone KNOWS what the modernists were trying to do. He does this by examining the history of the conflict between Church and Freemasonry, examining many recent private revelations and prophecies, and tying these to the undeniably unsettling developments within the Church in the last 60 years. Clarify where correct; apologize where incorrect. So I hope the Good Lord will make allowances for us lesser folk. God bless our most holy, ardent, bold, yet obedient priests of the TLM! Tag Archives: Timothy Gordon Post navigation. Its destructive and wrong. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of "Catholic Answers Live," and he has raving fans around the world. Just ask them, JP2 indeed spread a false ecumenism but wasnt trying to kill the TLM entirely. This sounded very familiar. Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. Acta non verba. Its intellectual. Civil discussion is whats needed and you wont even respond to me, privately or publicly. Timothys brother David (words in purple below) apparently started the current controversy with this tweet: This mainstream trad Catholic dalliance with the schismatic SSPX (canon 751) is beginning to endanger the souls of the faithful and it needs quashing with dispatch. (, This bodes very ill for the future unity of the reactionary revolt, seeing that both Shaw and Sammons are part of, Steve Skojec, founder and former editor at, The entire trad movement has become a chorus of barking dogs. Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. He also committed heresy by rejecting the dogma that each Pope has the gift of immunity from error (the gift of truth) and the gift of a never-failing faith. It has long struck me that the faith has never been so under attack. I wanted to continue, even w/ above: we were saving souls and thats all I care about: (7:57 PM), Thats why youll always see me warning against SSPX even though its trending now and him riding the wave. The latter of which was/is troubling and misleading[.] [28] Marshall and his family converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism. The errors are only a matter of degree here. He was acting as a good father. All the while, Marshall continues to receive Communion, despite rejecting the Roman Pontiff. But after the fact of our sinfulness, our fallenness, our brokenness, given that many persons are weak in many ways, and so cannot bring themselves to accept the Catholic religion, God permits them other paths to salvation, which are nevertheless always through Christ and His Church (even though they may not realize this). But at first disagreement (my critical review of his book, Infiltration) I was immediately banned from his Twitter page and have been the fodder for his (rather juvenile and petty) insults ever since. Now they havent judged him, obviously no one can do that. Taylor Marshall is a schismatic and a heretic, and therefore is not properly called a Catholic. (9:16 PM), Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. Authentic criticism requires accur. Do not be deceived, my fellow Catholics. (9:58 PM), Someone close to Taylor, tell him to return my call. As Faramir says of war: sin makes corpses of us all. Are they clarifying or scarifying? Get thicker skin. I just dont want this dragging out in public. If it is correct great. Catholics are drama queens[.] Its practically sedevacantist.. Garabandal: Are the Prophecies About to be Fulfilled? Irrelevant. torrentum, Thank you for posting this to let us know. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn[.] Well, if he wants to base his understanding of ecclesial politics on, It is an interesting fact about social media that some people who witnessed Marshalls insult of the Superiors General, and my own criticism of Marshall for making this insult, concluded that. 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