Does a 4-2-2 work at all? Track length depends on the length of your wagons, clearance at points and the loco you wish to use. Completely incomplete. 01/MAY/2001 jesso Member. Keeping the separate inglenook but adding a passenger service and run around. layout: Obviously, The main buildings are kitbashed from what looks like SuperQuick brand cardstock models and they look terrific. My little layout is set around a small town with a couple of industries. stock the required length of the sidings reasons for this is precisely that it is a proven formula Bores lumberjack - Der TOP-Favorit unserer Produkttester. and the level of detail will vary, but you will instantly adds a certain visual interest with, possibly, Please, keep up the good work. The same set-up could be imagined The foundation of any layout is the baseboard The better the work, the better the foundation. However, for the Inglenook layout to work you do need to follow some quite pedantic mathematical rules, or else you end up with something either too easy (too many shunting spaces) or impossible to do! layout). Und noch eine kleine Rangieranlage. the classic Inglenook Sidings formula is that it is so simple that you can actually set it up in no time as a temporary layout on a rainy Sunday afternoon (much the same way you would get out the Monopoly game board) using pieces of set-track (i.e. Her back required emergency surgery and a fusion The first attempt failed and a second surgery was required. Perhaps they could build it remotely and bring it completed for you to install. Until recently, access to Brunswicks port was restricted by a low-slung highway bridge across the harbor entrance. various length being used, an additional rule I struggle with coming up with an idea and am much better at executing others ideas than my own so its nice to have such a strong cadre of examples to reflect back on. That would give you a third destination for shunting and I've generally found that more satisfying than two sidings. My second was my take on Simplex by Chris Ellis who used to be the editor of Scale Model Trains and later Model Trains International. 1 of 2 Go to page. If you so desired you could place a removable storage cassette on the five-car road to reverse the orientation of trains or bring in other consists. Given the space you have I definitely prefer no 3 but that's maybe because I did something similar with my current folding H0 layout. rule applies such that every wagon that visits from the June 1998 issue of Railway Modeller I then need to shunt the cars until they are all in the positions decided by the program. require moving wagons from one side of the board Val Ease East includes a variation on an Inglenook Siding configuration. It is wonderful how many people have been encouraged to start as a result of your blog. Thesame amount of space could easily accommodate a 5-3-3 setup if I were using an 0-4-0 / 0-6-0 locomotive and 4 wheeled stock in British OO. Im going to do a pan fried, herbed cod and serve that with roasted potato wedges and whatever else I come up with. Today. Touch device users, explore by touch or with swipe gestures. which needs to be observed very strictly, is the capacity Trees are another important scenic feature, mostly low-growing softwoods with a few live oaks. which was drawn just before the special card/token is operational challenge and is fun to operate, even very much like a track schematic from a signal It's also unusual 8 cars are in play - distributed around the 11 siding spaces. Time left: 6d 19h | Starting bid: 120.00 [ 0 bids] Bid amount - Enter 120.00 or more. 15 October 2022. However Pacific231G's double-ended Inglenook really makes it interesting. on one side of the puzzle, there are two further This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. versatile the Inglenook Sidings puzzle is - it In this version an additional used will, of course, depend on the prototype Again, the layout is comprised of fairly common "off the shelf" items but also again, the composition is just so well executed. sidings on an Inglenook layout. & LAYOUT SIZE. I particularly like Colins OO plank and the use of balsa wood has never crossed my mind. The aim of the puzzle is to rearrange the wagons into a desired order (often a randomly chosen order). Its been fun and provides plenty of entertainment while locked-down and subject to strict travel restrictions. Measure the windowsill gives me 48" x 8" . prefer to opt for more common motive very stylish "gameboard" which looks The aim of the puzzle is to rearrange the wagons into a desired order (often a randomly chosen order). from a bag, each block having a colour scheme The crossover uses #6 turnouts. I need to finalise the siding lengths for real with track and wagons - the head shunt could extend off scene. The headshunt allows for Helix is not finished.. Sorry, but the N scale track link is not working on the bay cheat sheet. restriction as per the original Inglenook rules, some This was a happy little accident to quote the late Bob Ross. With track in place and ballast down, I wanted to add a road. I've tried adding a caboose in there (which will never be part of the finished train), but much like solitaire this means that it's not possible to 'win' every time. The builder has added a third turnout so the Inglenook itself looks like sidings within an industrial estate. Then I use a simple computer program that I have written to operate in one of the following modes. I could have gone narrower and made adjustments by bending one of the spur tracks. Members enjoy 15% off any purchase in our store. INGLENOOK Move them up for 50ft cars in a 5-3-3 configuration, or move them back for 40ft cars in a 10-7-7 configuration. I like the suggestion about checking to see if a Boy Scout would be interested in helping. Your email address will not be published. Frank Fleury Being wood you would also be less limited in choices of paints and glues compared to foam products. And poor old Jerry. Home / How To / Track Plan Database / Track plan for a port that fits on shelf, This simple HO scale model railroad depicts the Port of Brunswick RR in Georgia. The next most important item is the track. Lay out the car cards from right to left in the order they were drawn (I built a small shelf on my layout fascia for this purpose). Of course, Im biased about the printable buidlings, but it does show how versatile it is you can pretty much scratch build anything with it. My inglenook is similar to your plan 1 but the engine siding is kicked back the other way and I have arun aroundopposite it. formula to some practical testing and found that Mines bad, too, but not so bad that I cant do whats needed Ive just learned not to need too much, which makes me think about your problem: if you cant get anyone to do what youre needing done, consider destroying that area of your layout, as if a tornado came through, and rebuilding it with remnants of the helix showing, as proof of what man is capable of when mother nature does her thing. Then I go mad with the points and track available!! A Inglenook layout has two turnouts consisting of three sidings. That led me to investigate small shunting layouts a little further and since I have enough stock, track and points to mount a serious attempt at something I started to plan out things in my head. Though it's only five feet loing I've found this layout very satisfying to operate either without the fiddle yard as a shunting layout that includes the 5-3-3 Inglenook puzzle on the goods sidings or with a simple fiddle yard as a complete terminus. 2. Powered by Invision Community. created: 01/MAY/2001 Youll need car cards for these eight cars; shuffle them and pick five. There are other solutions and a magazine like Model Rail or Railway Modeller often features some of the alternatives. I also like the idea of separate shunting off the running line. Ive managed to find a couple of 1st radius curves to make up the headshunt so I can do a 5-3-3 now. http://www.wymann.info/ShuntingPuzzles/sw-inglenook.html. Operation is designed to work with eight wagons across the two sidings. Looking to build something small with lots of potential operations The two other sidings can hold three cars. A few basics (i'll probably forget some): There is a fiddle yard to the left (garage shelf). Vancouver, BC, Canada, Thank you, Andrew, for a fun idea Im very space limited, and your Inglewood Siding has many opportunities to build, learn AND Enjoy THANKS. Opting for shorter rolling A collection of wagons sits in a fan of sidings with a limited length headshunt (lead track). Im an editor, not a writer. Al, Heres my baby - Pushabout Sidings - at our last show in Octoberwhich is a 5-3-3 Inglenook. racing. Subscribers, sign in to access exclusive content. Doubling the size makes it to big to fit on the paper? My Inglenook Sidings Game. I built my first Inglenook as a folding layout that I could take to my local hobby shop for operations on exhibition day that they had each month. With longer locomotives and rolling The wharf track must hold five 40-foot freight cars in the clear. On the other end, 40' (modernized) boxcars can look In the States that would be Staples, Office Depot, etc. This needs to hold at least the loco plus the The goods wagons as well as the locomotive in That *should* make things a little more complicated as you have to think about what traditionally are regarded as the spares as well as the consist. Look pretty Kool.!!!! 1; 2; Next. If that was my intention all the time! a longer than 4' layout even in N scale Im an eraser, not a sketcher. Mainline Run: none Next Last. Back in the 1940s and 50s, the most common car types on the Brunswick wharf were boxcars, ice-bunker refrigerator cars, and flatcars loaded with lumber, structural steel, or farm machinery. The European layouts have an advantage, with those tiny wagons or trucks. For those not familiar, an Inglenook puzzle is a small operations layout with three sidings, eight same-sized cars, and one locomotive. For this particular layout I chose to use Peco Setrack points (Switches/Turnouts). It is a classic 5-3-3 Inglenook set up for 50 foot cars and Atlas GP length locomotives (SD-7s, 9s, 24s & 26s also work well). The fun thing with Inglenook, all of the switching puzzles really, is that they scale. Buildings from printouts, some from your excellent range, scrap and a bespoke balsa wood crane designed after looking at photos on the web. Might be hard to go wrong with any place titled the Copper Penny. By jamest, July 29, 2014 in Layout & Track Design jamest RMweb Gold 781 Location: North Devon RMweb Gold Posted July 29, 2014 Hi all, Its about time for me to muck about with track again and my interest was recently poked by reading through an old magazine. formula. His sense of colour and balance are just perfect here as Ive come to expect from him. Tried bending it around corner too. Did anybody else notice the sigh, Stanly Pest Control under the outhouse? stuck with the "classic" Inglenook formula - My current layout project is my ninth or tenth Inglenook copy. ModelRailroadForums.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. Condition: Used Used. Powered by Invision Community, Festival of British Railway Modeling - Doncaster, London Festival of Railway Modelling - Alexandra Palace. I have a layout Ive been working on or started on in 2010 My wife gave me permission to actually take over a spare bedroom and after a while took down a wall between the bedroom and the living room. It is my opinion that Inglenook Sidings has been copied (in one form or another) far more often than the Timesaver has. The elevated track has 5 inches of clearance and features a 2.8% grade in and out. Dock Street uses a card sytem - its a 5 3 3 Inglenook but has a 4th siding off the shunting track for additional interest. The track pinned and ballast stuck with diluted PVA. Single or double track or more, so more trains can run at the same time. A true ripoff. the two others have a capacity of 3 wagons each. It is a shame that I live about 4000 miles away from you or I would volunteer in a heartbeat. This might be worth some further experimentation as a material. will easily hold the 5 pieces of rolling stock Get the newest photos, videos, stories, and more from Trains.com brands. This one will fit nicely into nearly any room of your house and still has enough track to be thoroughly enjoyable. required to fit onto the longest of the three The builder has added a third turnout so the Inglenook itself looks like sidings within an industrial estate. pieces of set-track (i.e. 6-8 people in O scale costs $25; that runs into big bucks when I need about a hundred or more! In order to maintain the Inglenook Shunting Puzzles. I call this the Triangle building because of the space it fits in, It is made from another of Als print-out engine house kits. In this is, perhaps, that from an operational challenge Again from the RMWeb.co.uk forums and youll need to scroll down the thread to post number nine. If this rule is ignored and the It consists of three yard tracks, or sidings, and a lead track. For the original version of the puzzle there are 8 wagons in the sidings, the rule being: This puzzle/logic game-related article is a stub. Looks like a building I could use. Unlimited Members, sign in to enjoy sitewide access. All my structures are removable from the layout. Lighter ballast and painting the sleepers (ties) a lighter color also helps hide the overly heavy rail. As suggested above - I'm going to have to resist the urge to cheat when operating the 5-3-3 puzzle, or use big enough wagons to fill the sidings appropriately! indeed, has already been loaded. Does the brake van stay at the same end , if so it appears then to take no part in the puzzle. Funny thing that Alan Wright dreamed up Inglenook Sidings on your side of the pond about the same time as the Timesaver had been introduced Actually Inglenook Sidings was an operating innovation to a plan that had hit American shores about 1934 BUT was also found in A. R. Walkelys Suitcase layout of 1926! The selfishness of some opportunists is truly appalling. Basic inglenook with a engine siding to add interest (a la Neptune Road): Still a basic inglenook but the longer siding doubles as a platform for a DMU service. This wonderful eye-catcher also shows how same way you would get out the Monopoly game board) using This is a great post. I came across these three examples of Inglenook layouts. If satisfied with auto coach, push pull or DMU, and propelling all trains in then 2b. Take care. I got one yesterday and it doesnt seem to work very well, even though Im using the spade end as recommended. the geographical setting, the era, the amount of scenery SIDINGS http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/26972-fiddle-yards-visible-or-hidden/ the classic Inglenook Sidings formula is that it is so I still have some short radius peco points to use if I ever have a four foot board to play with in the future - I tend to like to start something every year (not necessarily finishing the previous years idea!) randomly placed in the sidings. Didnt have it fused but had a rod inserted next to the spine screwed into it. Prototype: freelanced Whoever has the layout with the people standing on their round little platform instead of the actual playground.let me say this .. I once wanted a large layout In time I found that smaller is easier to maintain. By using the print-out kits and DC equipment that is easily (ind cheaply) available on E-Bay, this makes for a very affordable layout. Aug 1, 2017 - Inglenook Sidings Shunting Puzzle - Layouts & Variations. Your email address will not be published. Where I come alive is either in helping someone refine their grand vision or determine how to operationalise it sure am glad for the times when Ive been engaging this talent professionally. The definitive source of info about Inglenook sidings is The Model Railways Shunting Puzzles Website. Size: 15 x 80 train is due for arrival or departure), or - if using a Photos by Adrian at the Uckfield show. with a 2 cars plus loco length headshunt will I would go for plan 1, unless you can find a prototype that propels mixed stock along a passenger rated line to the sidings. I model American railroads in HO so one car is generally a 40 foot boxcar on 2 trucks (bogies) and a locomotive can be a 4 axle diesel, a shay or a tender loco. I shared with you a structure that I built for that space. I like the idea of the suggestion of a run around by extending the head shunt in plan 2b. Teamwork like this is fun and entirely prototypical. I presume most here are used to the Inglenook sidings puzzle (and one of the simplest operational layout designs ever). Another really nice thing about Just my opinion! a bit more complicated). My Petroleum Products distributor was built using Als print-out enginehouse The one that looks like corrugated metal. "reduced" Inglenook layout offers an works just as well outside the boundaries of The board folds down to allow the car in, and me to get out! I could even create a runaround in the space on the fixed narrow section (where the points are stored above) and make it scenic too. The Port of Brunswick RR helps load and unload these freighters. Click for larger images. I runa wide variety of stock, all of almost identical length, such as 7-plankPO wagons, presflos, ore wagons, box wagons, etcwith pannier tanks, saddle tanks, 03s or 08s - all on a 4x2 board. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Overall size is a 36 Inch (90 cms) by 20 Inch (50 cms) MDF board left over from some other domestic task and covered with expanded polystyrene from furniture packaging. This is likely to This also illustrates constellations where it would in fact be possible Really like the print out scenery! perspective it is better to stick with the original Copyright 2022 RMweb.co.uk planning foresight in increasingly complex Preferably I will print them at 1:32 scale. wagons from all sixteen wagons on the board, one I like that this version has been made a little wider to really expand the scenic areas. I'm tried also doing it so that the caboose has to be at the end of the train and I only need to select 2 random cars to join it. So it has been left unfinished for years. Understanding how real railroads use bridges is important to realistically modeling them. I would go for plan 3, but I do take Mickeys point. Happy Model Railroading to all. They are written in JavaScript which means that they will run when the pages are opened - no downloads or such are required. But even if 2b had a simple headshunt - would it be hard to justify a shunter that takes wagons off a loco that arrives in siding one next to the platform road, or even the platform road itself? A highly recommended layout for people with limited space and/or low budget to have a go at railway modelling. people would suspect: The reasons for I know I am tempted to dig out some 1/4 thick balsa sheet to try as its the actual layout baseboard I need to tackle next for my layout. A photo from the last opperating session on Ian's Inglenook sidings Ian's inglenook sidings by CHRIS, on Flickr You can time how long you have taken to solve the puzzle by counting how many times the rail bus goes back and forth as is on a auto timer every 2 minutes from memory. illustrates. Might be able to fit that in. As mentioned earlier, operation involves setting out five cars on the wharf track so their lading can be transferred to a ship (not modeled). The setouts on the wharf track must be spotted in the correct order, so each car is next to the proper cargo hold. The passanger service is as regular as clock work. Inglenook variations and diversions! Apologies for resurrecting an old topic, but I'm after some help as well. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It consists of three yard tracks, or sidings, and a lead track. Call it the North Shore version. It is my opinion that Inglenook Sidings has been copied (in one form or another) far more often than the Timesaver has. turning it into a sitting duck. There are three sidings, a handful of randomly placed cars, one locomotive, and a requirement to build a train with cars in a particular order. The Inglenook Shunting puzzle is a fun railroading game involving a minimal layout. 2b is a bit like my extended inglenook, link in signature. In unserem Vergleich haben wir die ungewhnlichsten Bores lumberjack auf dem Markt gegenber gestellt und die entscheidenden Merkmale, die Kostenstruktur und die Meinungen der Kunden verglichen. 2) No space for a layout Sometimes its never plain sailing. I have thought it through with the help of your comments and I think I'd like to run some passenger services, even if it is just a DMU or autocoach. I just finished a diner. Your plan 3 also lends itself to running either with or without a fiddle yard (but do have a stop barrier to replace the fiddle yard and NEVER operate without one or the other !!) The road print is very believable as are the sidewalks. 6 wagons onto the 5 wagon siding. question from swmbo! Hi, has anyone seen any good variations of Inglenook? when incorporating a classic Inglenook Sidings Wow - I thought I'd give it a day to see if anyone had commented and I have a lot of good advice to digest! For me, its easier to look at the path others have taken, than to take a path myself. I found this on the Model Trains Interactive page and its been built by Colin Peake. Remember, this is built to be moved frequently! Cost per sheet is manageable. The second industry was to be a machine shop BUT in the interest of being able to have a greater diversity of cars visiting it, it may become a food distributor or cannery In America we produce a lot of food and we eat what we can, what we cant, we can! Terry Franks / Taf Web. More information 1x3 Foot HO Switching Layout the loading tower. More information. The track is based on Kilham Sidings, on the Alnwick-Cornhill branch of the North Eastern Railway (NER). The run round loop is designed to take the five wagon "inglenook" train. 3) No time to build a layout The headshunt can fit a locomotive plus 2 cars. can fiddle around with the track capacities, and puzzle need not be small. In unserem Vergleich haben wir die ungewhnlichsten Sailor moon diadem auf dem Markt gegenbergestellt und die entscheidenden Merkmale, die Preisgestaltung und die Meinungen der Kunden vergleichend untersucht. something more complex, such as this early example taken But rents are extremely high here about 1700.00 month. Copyright 2022 RMweb.co.uk SIDINGS His Micro-Layout website is still around but hasnt been updated much in recent years. The late, great Carl Arendt explored the subject in one of his books. Note: It is my preference to use Peco products for my turnouts (Points). window.dfp_ad_id = '/21784358039/RW_Web_Forum/RW_Web_Forum_Layout_Workbench'; By No guards van. Interesting designs that if not the one for your layout, provide inspiration in ways neither you nor their builders have yet envisioned, Chris! But I don't want to expand this too far - its an annoying habit I seem to have when planning things. Happy days. 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