Posted on February 5, 2019 by irishroverpei. Rumour had it many years ago a boy did fall, bouncing off the safety net and through the Post Office roof. attempted to climb to the top of the mast, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Aboriginal spears taken in 1770 to return to Sydney, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart. First the older of the two, Maurice WRIGHT JX 657902. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, Independent Babergh District councillor for Ganges, Derek Davis. It was easy to spot those who had been here the longest. But, because of the lockdown nothing has really moved and I think, even though construction workers havent leagally been told theyre not allowed to do anything, the owners are a bit reluctant to move. Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Paperback - 22 Nov. 1995 by John Douglas (Author), John Wheatley (Illustrator) 6 ratings Paperback 12.00 8 Used from 8.90 H.M.S. Reaching high into the sunlit sky stood the mast; its yardarms spread wide like a giant crucifix. HMS Ganges is situated on the Shotley Peninsula in Suffolk. Read about our approach to external linking. "It's very high - you get a good view though.". "I remember another of the Ganges boys, they were talking to a visitor at the museum, and she said 'it was quite brutal, wasn't it? There's something to be said for finding how finding out how good you are at living with other people, and finding respect for yourself. On October 28 the White Ensign was lowered for the last time and the ships figurehead was transferred to Royal Hospital School, Holbrook. During the third disastrous week, it spent so much time on the deck I thought I might as well leave it there! It closed in 1998 or something. The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. I had thought that our group were the only sailors, if we dared call ourselves that, in this annexe, but I was soon to discover there was a continuous rotation of faces, each at various stages of initiation, a small factory taking in baby civilians at one end and throwing out almost sailors into the real HMS Ganges at the other. www.amazon.co.uk/H-m-S-Ganges-Dozen/dp/0906418003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269273975&sr=1-1, www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=134/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html, www.veterans-uk.info/vets_badge/vets_badge.htm. Peter Cook. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. It. and for those of you who served at ganges and who have't joined the association go on..nothing to lose and you'll find a lot of old shipmates there!! "In 1860 she was decommissioned and laid up, and in 1866 she was turned into a training ship, and her guns were removed. He was sitting on a stool and told me to stand in front of him and begin. A Gannett Company. His early life was hard by any standards. HMS Ganges had a reputation for its harsh discipline. Saw your message. I was sent to the training Ship HMS Ganges a cruel harsh 12 months lay ahead of me and thousands of other boys. 1927. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. HMS Ganges in Shotley Gate, Suffolk, was a land-based training centre for recruits between 1905 and 1976. Through the year the training was intense, probably a good thing, it gave us little time to regret joining the navy. Martin Foster was treasurer for veterans who served at HMS Ganges training base in Sufffolk. From the annexe, I had sometimes seen it, partly hidden by snowy skies as it towered above the buildings, and it looked frightening then, but now, marching beneath its cobweb rigging, it looked truly awesome. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, The Duke of Edinburgh visiting HMS Ganges in June 1973 Picture: ARCHANT. Abuse Details. Ganges will for ever be the legacy of every young boy who passed through those distant gates to emerge as a sailor and a man. yes I was there in 92 .Essex, Nolfolk , Herts Suffolk and Cambs police all used it. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. There was one hell to come, the Ganges mast! Joined Ganges Feb '61..went through the same as everyone else. 1903. Two other ratings are recorded as 'drowning' whilst on the books of HMS Ganges and both were in 1944. HMS Ganges organisation of meals - covering the galley in the Long Covered Way/messdeck dining, and the introduction of the CMG block /communal dining - dated 1952. c. Punishment of Juniors (U) at HMS Ganges dated 1970. d. Restrictions on the caning of boys as a punishment dated 1929-1931. Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. (LogOut/ The money belonged to the HMS Ganges Association for people who served at the former naval training base at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, Suffolk. It had been HO (Hostilities-only) traing during the war. CMEM (M) Served from 1972 - 1987 Served in HMS Ganges. This was followed by a leap from the diving board, as high as any tree I'd ever climbed, wearing the waterlogged boiler suit and a lifejacket. Royal Navy 238217 Boy 1st Class HMS Ganges II. Welcome to Forces Reunited the place where you can find information and friends from HMS Ganges. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. LRO (G) Served from 1975 - 1998 Served in HMS Ganges. Mr Youngman, who joined the navy aged 15 in 1965, said he had previously climbed up to the top of the mast but "couldn't wait to get back down". Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. Our abuse contact API returns data containing information belonging to the abuse contact of every IP address on the Internet. He would lay on the number of cuts prescribed, each cut raised a welt on the boys buttocks. I arrived at Ganges in the late afternoon on March 15th 1955, along with roughly a hundred other fifteen year old boys. A question of Religion?Maybe MaybeNot???? I would imagine it will be a number of years before we see the final product but Ive seen first hand how quickly they can actually make progress once the builders get going. 1905 - 1976 HMS Ganges moved moorings from Harwich to Shotley. 10/01/36- 08/02/36 HMS Pembroke. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships since from 1779, but in 1905 it was chosen as title for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich where about 500 boy recruits. Report abuse. Mr Jones said: "There is a lot of truth to the statement that you entered as a boy, but left as a man. I was ordered to report for my test one evening after supper. Yes indeed, they were the best of times and the worst of times. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to HMS GANGES AT HIGHNAM COURT, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, 1940 - 1942. The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Royal Navy 238217 Boy 2nd Class HMS Ganges II. Statistics for the 1930s indicate some 200 official canings per year in HMS Ganges alone, an average of four per week. After initial training we were marched from the training camp. Read about our approach to external linking. May 46 to HMS Wakeful, Training Flotilla for a twelve-week tour from . 1907. Padre Weekes was always good for a fag and Jim Conroy (PTI) taught me to yodel. Crowned on June 2, 1953, at the age of 25, Elizabeth II went on to have the longest reign for a British queen. For breakfast porridge was on offer, that salt-coated gruel I'd been forced to eat every morning of my schoolboy days. Finally he withdrew his hand and declared I passed the test. I was out of there in an instant, but never said a word to anyone, I was just happy it was over and I had qualified. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to Doesnt sound too bad does it. Peter Ohara. First Royal Navy ship to visit Eire, post independence? HMS Ganges (1821) This page summarises records created by this Organisation The summary includes a brief description of the collection (s) (usually including the covering dates of the. 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Not to the required half-moon, but to the first platform, where, when authoritative eyes were averted, I dashed to the other side and climbed back down.. The association said it had about 3,000 members and at the time of the offences its income from membership fees was about 30,000 a year. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Learn how your comment data is processed. 1937. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were. This gallery has been set up as a home for images that have not so far been added to the Museums Official Website https://www.hmsgangesmuseum.com/ Roe told me "I don't like you." Speaking about the current state of the site, Mr Jones said: "All of the messes have been demolished, as have the laundry and the generators. Im quite sure few if any boys receiving cuts ever thought to run away again. First time ever looking at any RN sights. Independent Babergh District councillor for Ganges, Derek Davis. I was at Ganges in 1955 and went to visit Shotley in 2005 and was surprised to see police signs near the old swimming baths. Tangible progress to transform a former Suffolk naval training base into nearly 300 homes, a sports park, shops and a GP surgery could be seen once the coronavirus lockdown is over. It had been HO (Hostilities-only) traing during the war. George Douglas Blake HMS Warspite. Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. The mast has been a local landmark since it was erected a century ago this year at the end of the Shotley peninsular. Maybe we were unlucky with Instructors as one was Court Marshalled, discharged and sent to prison for so called abuse. HP10 9TY. The rest of the class were not pleased to suffer because of one boys stupidity and sometimes made a cruel point of letting the culprit know. Realizing his mistake he fought back and with no way out he had no choice but to work his ticket. HP10 9TY. Offenders, known in the Navy as "defaulters", were mustered every morning and went before the Captain for a formal hearing, where they could be "awarded" up to 12 "cuts" -- very hard strokes of contact the editor here. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. The pipe (whistle) was used aboard ship for passing orders and instructions. We had just finished PT before going to supper, so I was in shorts. I came across a clip on youtube that really saddened me and it tells its own story about the UK as it is now and the real fact that such things as pride, standards etc have long been lost and decay and neglect are the order of the day, I do not need to walk very far from my home to see with my own eyes the evidence all around me. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Most boys just wanted to complete their year and go to sea. It was hard, often . To get out of the showers we had to stand before our instructor legs apart arms raised for inspection. Change). Unfortunately HMS Ganges is no longer there apart from a few buildings and what is left of the mast. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Find BBC News: East of England on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. (LogOut/ Picture: SARAH LUCY BROWN (Image: Archant). Charles Dickens might have penned it the best of times and the worst of times. Ganges training establishment. interesting .. photos of the old pool. Restoration of the historic HMS Ganges Mast is well under way at Barrelmans Point in Shotley. July 27, Awarded the Freedom of Ipswich. I shuddered to the bone, as I'm sure did other boys. John Garrett. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. Like lots of other boys I ran away from home when I was 14 yrs old and joined the Royal Navy as a Boy Seaman 2nd class. One not only suffered the punishment such as doubling up and down the steps of laundry hill with a 303 rifle held high. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. The skipper was HS McKenzie who went FOSM. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy, Please enter a password with 6 characters or more. The HMS Ganges training base, which opened in 1905, closed in 1976 and has remained . Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 16 June 2021 . This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. It would not be an exaggeration to say not one of us had the slightest idea of what lay in store for the next year. Frederick "Ben" Rodgers author of "Lily & Me", "The Royal Navy & Me" and collector of Rover automobiles, Review from Newfoundland CraigChurchill. Engineer commander had been on Amethyst up the Yangtse and was quite sympathetic when he was OOD. The greatest fear was of messing up, this meant the whole class was punished. Maurice was nothing to do with HMS Ganges, in fact he had been a crew member of HMS Hambledon. While the training ship was originally based in Cornwall, she was moved to Harwich, and then Shotley in the 1890s, in order to be closer to a centre of population. Nevertheless, as bad and as cruel as I have describe Ganges, I remain proud to call myself a Ganges Boy. At 14 he ran away to join the Royal Navy and signed on for 12 years. Each time I let it go off it popped, falling to the deck with a clatter. Mr W Im sure the surprise and very welcome CD that popped through my letter box today was from you dear sir, so thanks very much and Im looking forward to listening to it very soon. the top rung of a six foot ladder is about my limit! The cold water often caused some boys to duck in and out of the water quickly or sometimes not at all. Editors' Code of Practice. But this was Ganges, we never got away with anything. Bob Roberts. Indeed, I have never met a shipmate would ever claim otherwise. All thanks to my Instructor CMEM LUCKENS . This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Every new recruit was required to climb it, not to the very top but to the half moon, about thirty-feet from the top. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. The showers at Ganges were just one bare room with several shower heads, no privacy. The HMS Ganges training base, which opened in 1905, closed in 1976 and has remained derelict. View of the iconic mast at the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. Were you a 'button boy'? They say you never forget the place and I agree. The previous evening I'd arrived at HMS Ganges training annexe, with an assortment of other would-be-sailors, and was placed in the capable hands of a spotty-faced junior instructor and a bullet-proof gunnery instructor who wore crossed guns on both lapels. The one chippy bugger who thought it good fun to make you spar with him in the wash room (Annexe) I met up with in the Far Flung and gave him more than he gave me. Photos showing the rusting mast at the former site of HMS Ganges at Shotley peninsula have been released on social media, prompting concerns that the 142ft high structure is not being properly. the reason i remember the date is that it was my 15th birthday, We got shipped out to Suez in October 1956 cutting short our training by a couple of months. Life on the ship was extremely hard, with a memorial in Mylor, Cornwall, recording the names of 53 people who died while training on it between 1866 and 1899. In the first week of January it was snowed even harder and it snowed until March. On the parade ground the order went something like On the command fix! The left hand went behind the cheek of your left buttock and twisted the bayonet and scabbard upward. Thanks again, D. R. WALTON the only O.E.M. Name Hetzner Online GmbH - Contact Role. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please Ganges Museum is located at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, in what was the Enright Block, on the foreshore of the former H.M.S. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. HMS GANGES 6th May 2009 - YouTube. Other things we had to do included, clean a toilet with a toothbrush, polish a hundred square feet of block-wood flooring with a boot brush every night before going to bed, paint the inside of a dustbin white before putting your rubbish into it. #42. HMS Ganges is a little bit different though, because they have to get the spine road in first and do some prep work. Even by naval training standards life there was controlled by a very strict regime. . and I got seven days 9s. HMS Ganges as a training ship in the 1900s (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). HMS Ganges was a "stone frigate" or land-based institution for the Royal Navy, and between 1905 and 1976 was one of the key training bases used to prepare sailors to defend Great Britain. The water was freezing cold, we never had hot water. A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. Today in Naval History - Naval / Maritime Events in History 13 March 1653 - Death of Simon de Vlieger (c. 1601, Rotterdam - buried 13 March 1653, Weesp) Simon de Vlieger (c. 1601, Rotterdam - buried 13 March 1653, Weesp) was a Dutch designer, draughtsman, and painter, most famous for. ( Royal Naval Detention Quarters RNDQs Portsmouth), Listen to No Flowers for Geordie on SoundCloud. LEADING SEAMAN Served from 1961 - 1970 Served in HMS Ganges. David Colwill. In attendance was a senior officer, medical officer and the master at arms. Some 100 boy-sailors were in the canteen, chewing and chattering; clattering knives forks and spoons against plates and bowls. Attempts have been made to contact developers Haylink Ltd but have been unsucessfull. Free (donations towards running costs are welcome) The HMS Ganges Museum previously said restorers would remove the wooden part of the mast for refurbishment off site and they would then check the condition of the steel lower mast. We are the largest and fastest growing community of UK forces veterans on the web with over 500,000 members! Several tales about bullying and the harsh regime generally, not so much about the famous and frequent official canings. Mr Davis added: They have had the last conditions, including the fire hydrants agreed. Mr Jones also offered reassurance around the historic mast, despite fears about its dilapidated state. 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