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true crime. Hi. ~ Christine. She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Why? "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. 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Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. "I was about nine at the time and he was about twice my age, but I felt, at nine, that I was his intellectual superior," he said. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. On 28 June 2021, I sent the following Freedom of Information Request to South Wales Police. I wonder if there was a sketch done when Hoyles confronted a man weeks earlier. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. It was an article that said that Harries had worked for Muriel's father John at the time of her murder. Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Was a local stalking Muriel? This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. Sometime later that afternoon, Muriels mother Margaret glanced out of her kitchen window and noticed Muriel approaching their property from approximately 400 yards away. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. Learn more about managing a memorial . Muriel Drinkwater Muriel Drinkwater (born 1906) Jump to: Bio graphy Family Photos Comments Obit uary. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. Hi Sherlock. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. Video, 00:00:42Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. Something went wrong, please try again later. I am awaiting D.N.A tests to be carried out on Harold Jones family members. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest one in the world to . 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But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts found a semen stain found on Muriel's coat. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Mudgee General Cemetery. She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Advertisement. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. I am making a F.O.I. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Just put my name in Facebook bar. Bethell was thrilled to discover that on the back of the coat, a no-longer visible dried semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Bethell sent the coat toDr. Colin Dark, and over the course of three years (MUCH longer than depicted on television and in the movies) Bethell analyzed the material and was able to extract enough fragments of DNA tosuccessfully create a Y-STR profile from the semen stain. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Over the years, South Wales Police have fought tooth and nail to prevent me gaining any information under the Freedom of Information Requests Act. I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? ~ Christine. Does his daughter have a son.? An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. Her mother was in the kitchen and . The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. Another wait and see. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". A brother, nephew, grandson. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. Well here is the TRUTH. Enter your email address to receive our monthly newsletter and to be notified about new posts. The Crime Review Group already have the information that I request. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. Hi Neil. It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). Muriel Drinkwater. 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Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. D.S. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . 'Each case is reviewed periodically. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. profiling. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . Paul says: "Muriel had almost made it to the home. Advertisement. I have informed South Wales Police regarding this information to save them a fortune on a wild goose chase trying to extract D.N.A. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! Despite their inve. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. 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